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dang nubcake · Oct 04, 2006, 05:39 AM // 05:39

ZOMG why are a net trying to ruIn pvp??

no 6v6 in ha!!! 6v6 FTL make a new effing area to 6v6 in if they want one!! god!!! like actually rage quit life a net!!!! and who ever said 6v6 gives more variety is a douch an well they were talking bull. no one liked the 6v6 they only liked the double fame.... which by the way ruined the whole ranking system damn nubs getting r 5 in 3 days HOWS MY SPELLING LEXI!

Wildkat · Oct 04, 2006, 05:42 AM // 05:42

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It just makes no sense to come out with 2 more professions and then reduce HA to teams of 6.May as well delete support builds or be forced to use hybrids(like the dervish or paragon).I think why so few used the dervs or paragons during the last event was because everyone wanted to unlock as many skills as possible or did not have enough unlocked to use the new classes effectivly.There are good counters to any build in HA and would rather see skill balance than changing to a dull 6 man team.

Lordhelmos · Oct 04, 2006, 05:49 AM // 05:49

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HA sucks as it is, any change is good.

Dizzy Physics · Oct 04, 2006, 06:01 AM // 06:01

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6v6 is for nubs who cant deal with the complications of a more intricate build. DONT DO IT ARENANET!!!!!!!

Dizzy Physics · Oct 04, 2006, 06:02 AM // 06:02

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Originally Posted by Lordhelmos

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HA sucks as it is, any change is good.

yeah a lot of unranked people say that.

Not Prime Time · Oct 04, 2006, 06:06 AM // 06:06

/signed

I vote NO to 6v6!

maraxusofk · Oct 04, 2006, 06:11 AM // 06:11

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Originally Posted by lightblade

You see...
Most people that's against 6v6 are pre-searing cadets. They didn't have enough fun yet with 8v8.
While most people that support 6v6 are wild pathfinders that already got bored of 8v8.

Now the math:
With the upcoming release of Nightfall, we'll have total of 10 different professions.

10 nCr 8 = 45 different profession combo
10 nCr 6 = 210 different professin combo
12 nCr 6 = 924 different combo (w/ ch4)

Do I need to say anymore?

For ur first statement, notice how msot of the people who are AGAINST this 6v6 arena is higher ranked than the people who want the change. yeah anet, go ahead and cater to noobs. see how many hardcore pvp'ers (you know, the ones who will buy ur game just b/c it has new skills and couldnt care less for pve) support ur game after this. BAD MOVE

Now how many of those combos are acutally good? Yeah im sure a w/rt will be good, as he tries to bash someone whiel he spams 5 second spirits! Theres countlesss other ones that are naturally not made for each other, so dont pretend like every single profession combo can be usefull.

Look, i didnt complain when they first started making greens and lowered my perfect's values greatly. I ddint complain when they devalued my collection of weapons by millions b/c of increased drop rates. i didnt complain when they nerfed minion masters. i didnt complain when they nerfed my favorite spike the ranger spike several times. i will not stand and take this though. This completely flies in the face of all the experience accumulated in 8v8. besides i loved ha cuz 8 ppl meant i could practice wierd randomway builds when im bored. and have a well coordinated team when i choose to.

ames · Oct 04, 2006, 06:16 AM // 06:16

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most of the people who are saying no to 6v6 are the iwayers/bloodspikers...
and for those who say all the high ranked people or guilds oppose 6v6, I have only come accross maybe one or two r11+ people who think it's a bad idea but will still tomb...
the people opposing this are the players of cookie cutter builds...
if you're seriously complaining about vimway then please stop pvping immediatly...
be more creative with spikes if u must..
condition meta? ever try a healer with RC anyone?
people can't just deal with change... which tombs needed badly.. it was always flawed, and should have been 6v6 from the start.

maraxusofk · Oct 04, 2006, 06:24 AM // 06:24

i see one way of anet fixing the cries on spike damage and keep ha at 6v6, raise the dmg of the spikes themselves WAY up. this would theoretically work to balance the absence of 1-2 spikers but it will most likely unbalance gvg to some extent, perhaps creating split team spikes?

ames · Oct 04, 2006, 06:36 AM // 06:36

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Originally Posted by maraxusofk

i see one way of anet fixing the cries on spike damage and keep ha at 6v6, raise the dmg of the spikes themselves WAY up. this would theoretically work to balance the absence of 1-2 spikers but it will most likely unbalance gvg to some extent, perhaps creating split team spikes?

go debate this in another thread...
and this is possibly the worst post in this petition...
play something other than spike please? thanks.

6 players is more than enough to spike.. be creative if you really must...

lightblade · Oct 04, 2006, 06:36 AM // 06:36

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Originally Posted by maraxusofk

... hardcore pvp'ers ...

I had always been told the mass market is in the casual market (from reading many articles from gamasutra). No matter hardcore players like it or not, Nightfall IS going to sell. And even hardcore players will buy them just to have that edge on extra skills.

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Originally Posted by maraxusofk

Now how many of those combos are acutally good? Yeah im sure a w/rt will be good, as he tries to bash someone whiel he spams 5 second spirits! Theres countlesss other ones that are naturally not made for each other, so dont pretend like every single profession combo can be usefull.

That's not what I'm talking about; Makes me doubt you know the meaning of "nCr". What I'm talking about is there will be more varity of team composition. Instead of {W/R, W/R, R/W, R/W, R/W, R/W, R/W, R/W}, you can have {W/P, D/W, A/N, Rt/Me, Me/Mo, Mo/Me}

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Originally Posted by maraxusofk

Look, i didnt complain when they first started making greens and lowered my perfect's values greatly. I ddint complain when they devalued my collection of weapons by millions b/c of increased drop rates. i didnt complain when they nerfed minion masters. i didnt complain when they nerfed my favorite spike the ranger spike several times. i will not stand and take this though. This completely flies in the face of all the experience accumulated in 8v8. besides i loved ha cuz 8 ppl meant i could practice wierd randomway builds when im bored. and have a well coordinated team when i choose to.

The game had changed before and you had adapted to it, and you had adapted to the new game many many times. Why can't you adapt to this kind of change? I see that you want to make "randomway builds" and there will be even more room for your "randomway builds" with 6v6. Since there will be more varity. Just because something is changed doesn't mean it's the end of it all. The game will go on with or without you. Will you play the game or be played by the game?

JC68 · Oct 04, 2006, 06:41 AM // 06:41

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Originally Posted by Roland Of Ka Tet

Many guilds are dedicated exclusively to play in Hero’s Ascent.

well many guilds did this in 8v8 HA too

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6v6 HA is better

byggryn10 · Oct 04, 2006, 06:47 AM // 06:47

What a crime that we wont even get to exerience Nightfall in the traditional 8v8 format. This is soundly lame.

LightningHell · Oct 04, 2006, 07:01 AM // 07:01

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Originally Posted by Dizzy Physics

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6v6 is for nubs who cant deal with the complications of a more intricate build. DONT DO IT ARENANET!!!!!!!

Well, well, well. So the GvGers who like 6v6 HA and might try it if it was are "nubs who cant deal with the complications of a more intricate build".

lightblade · Oct 04, 2006, 07:19 AM // 07:19

Whoever's against 6v6 just can't adapt to the new game.

"Game experience may change during online play."

lmao...adapt and move on...

Sarevok Thordin · Oct 04, 2006, 07:25 AM // 07:25

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A good first step to trying to fix the toilet that is HA.

All you "ranked elitists" gb2looking for a new gimmick build.

The only people to blame for HA becoming 6v6 is the MASSES of gimmick builds. Infact, it's going to cause *GASP* EUROPE TO POSSIBLY NOT HAVE FAVOR 24/7! O_O

(I'm from europe btw)

Kry Onicle · Oct 04, 2006, 07:35 AM // 07:35

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Originally Posted by lightblade

The game had changed before and you had adapted to it, and you had adapted to the new game many many times. Why can't you adapt to this kind of change? I see that you want to make "randomway builds" and there will be even more room for your "randomway builds" with 6v6. Since there will be more varity. Just because something is changed doesn't mean it's the end of it all. The game will go on with or without you. Will you play the game or be played by the game?

Thats the point, its not the matter of ' adapt and get over it' this time round. Its the fact they have taken HA away from HA players. 90% of people that I know that HA on a daily basis, *hated* the 6v6, so why adapt to something you dont enjoy playing?

This is more than a skill change or a decrease in value on items etc. ANET have taken the one part of the game that HA orientaited players/guilds actually play this game for, away from them.

How can you say there will be more variety? +2 professions and -2 slots = no way is that true. You think HA is stale now? Just wait. I give it a month before all the Pve'rs that whinged about making 6v6 permentant get bored of it and go back to PVE/AB. Whilst HA'ers are left with no part of the game they enjoy. I only pve to help out guilides and to (before becoming UAX) unlock skills etc for PvP. Im sure a hell of alot of people on here do/feel the same way and im 100% sure their all people who HA alot.

jackie · Oct 04, 2006, 07:37 AM // 07:37

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Originally Posted by ames

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most of the people who are saying no to 6v6 are the iwayers/bloodspikers...
and for those who say all the high ranked people or guilds oppose 6v6, I have only come accross maybe one or two r11+ people who think it's a bad idea but will still tomb...
the people opposing this are the players of cookie cutter builds...
if you're seriously complaining about vimway then please stop pvping immediatly...
be more creative with spikes if u must..
condition meta? ever try a healer with RC anyone?
people can't just deal with change... which tombs needed badly.. it was always flawed, and should have been 6v6 from the start.

Quote For Truth, Ames

iube · Oct 04, 2006, 07:43 AM // 07:43

You now have 4v4 arena, 6v6 ha, 8v8 gvg as it should have always been. Stop complaining.

Kry Onicle · Oct 04, 2006, 07:49 AM // 07:49

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Originally Posted by jackie

Quote For Truth, Ames

Wrong, I never IWAY/Vimway and very *very* rarely Bloodspike. Balanced all the time tbh. I just hate the 6v6 feel.

You cant say everyone who hates it is an IWAY noob. Just like you cant say everyone who loves it is a Pve noob that happend to like it during the event.

Believe it or not people have opinions and actually voice them. So discriminating based on a view is very shallow.